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Parents Who Think

The Parents Who Think podcast interrupts the parenting status quo. Join Danusia Malina-Derben (entrepreneur, author, and mother of 10) for raw, unfiltered explorations of the modern parenting landscape. Through the lens of diverse perspectives and intelligent inquiry, PWT dives into the crucial dilemmas that define our lives. Whether you’re mainstream or "marginalized," we provide the clarity needed to navigate the hard realities of raising humans. We aren’t looking for consensus; we’re looking for truth in the messy, real-world chaos. Flex your agency, sharpen your thinking, and redefine parenthood with PWT: where the conversation goes deeper.

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Jealousy and Sex with Erica Jong

Jul 19, 2025

What happens when a woman writes the truth the world isn’t ready to hear? In this episode of Parents Who Think, host Danusia Malina-Derben joins Erica Jong, novelist, poet, and unapologetic icon, in a conversation about the power and price of honesty.

They explore how female jealousy gets buried in family and friendship, how mothers and daughters carry inherited pain, and why admitting negative emotions is still radical. Erica reflects on the terror of writing Fear of Flying, the myth of zipless fucks, and why she’s always preferred warm and cuddly sex to bodice-ripping fantasy.

From literary rebellion to maternal ambivalence, this episode offers rare insight into what it means to be a woman who speaks her mind, and refuses to apologise for it.

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Credits:

• Hosted by Danusia Malina-Derben

• Edited, Mixed + Mastered by Marie Cruz

• Cover art by Anthony Oram